Guardian 28,148 – Vulcan

I found this a bit harder than usual for Vulcan, probably because of the large (some might say excessive) number of double definition clues. There are also several that I’ve labelled as “double/cryptic definition”, by which I mean they have a definition and and attached hint. (I tried to coin the word “sesquidef” to describe this type a few years ago, but unsurprisingly it didn’t catch on.) Thanks to Vulcan.

 
 
 
 
 
 
Across
7. CARTRIDGE There will be a charge in this case (9)
Cryptic definition – the “charge” is in a gun cartridge
8. WATCH Pay attention to what the Spectator does (5)
“Double” definition – “Spectator” is capitalised to make us think of the magazine, but otherwise it’s essentially the same definition twice
9. INSIDE JOB Type of crime committed by a prisoner? (6,3)
Double/cryptic definition
10. SIREN Bewitching girl that wails loudly (5)
Double definition
12. ARTERY Queen contributed to cultural channel (6)
ER in ARTY
13. ELEPHANT Trumpeter amazing the panel (8)
(THE PANEL)*
16. COMPACT Succinct agreement that’s put into handbag (7)
Three definitions
19. SPARKLE Odds on racehorse are glittering (7)
SP (Starting price – odds) + ARKLE (racehorse, named after a mountain in NW Scotland)
22. DOG-TIRED Boxer so shattered? (3-5)
Double/cryptic definition
25. SQUASH Put down drink (6)
Double definition (“put down” as in squashing a rebellion)
27. SEPIA Pigment sounds more likely to ooze (5)
Homophone of “seepier”
28. PREACHING Nice graph represented vicar’s work (9)
(NICE GRAPH)*
29. LED ON Deceived the French teacher (3,2)
LE + DON
30. ONCE AGAIN Ocean waves go fast, as before (4,5)
OCEAN* + GAIN (as in “they’re gaining on us”)
Down
1. MANNER Style of plain title girl received (6)
ANNE in MR (a “plain title”)
2. STRIKE UP Knock into the air and begin to play (6,2)
Double definition (“strike up the band!”)
3. LIVERY These London companies providing current to railway (6)
LIVE (providing current) + RY – see here to read about livery companies
4. IGNORED Disregarded amendment for redoing (7)
REDOING*
5. DANISH In plate, an accompaniment to coffee (6)
AN in DISH – a Danish pastry
6. SCREEN Loose rock needs new barrier (6)
SCREE (loose rock on a hillside) + N
11. LEAP Look before you take such a year (4)
Double/cryptic definition – “look before you leap”
14. ASK Request contents of basket (3)
Hidden in bASKet
15. TIE Draw something of the old school (3)
Double definition, the second referring to “the old school tie”
16. COD Not real fish (3)
Double definition
17. MUG This could be raised to part of mouth (3)
Reverse of GUM (part of the mouth), and a MUG can be raised to the lips
18. CORK It closes the port (4)
Double definition
20. ROUGHAGE Unpleasant period having fibre to eat (8)
ROUGH + AGE
21. ADORING Besotted with Gordian knot (7)
GORDIAN*
23. OPENER Key batsman (6)
Double definition
24. TAILOR Tinker’s follower could suit you (6)
Double definition – from the counting rhyme “Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Sailor”, and a tailor could make you a suit
25. SWAYED Was a rocker in leather, I gather (6)
Homophone of “suede”
26. SINK IN Evil family are absorbed (4,2)
SIN (evil) + KIN

57 comments on “Guardian 28,148 – Vulcan”

  1. Avatar for rohanm
    Comment #1
    rohanm
    June 1, 2020 at 6:55 am at

    Thanks Vulcan and Andrew.  The confounded grid again, with less than 50% checking (8, 10, 27, 29 across, for instance).

  2. Avatar for George Clements
    Comment #2
    George Clements
    June 1, 2020 at 7:31 am at

    I’m like The Boomtown Rats, I don’t like Mondays.

  3. Avatar for grantinfreo
    Comment #3
    grantinfreo
    June 1, 2020 at 7:46 am at

    Well, the usual gimmes like watch, dog tired, elephant and so on, but for some reason the last four or five in the NW took ages: cartridge, inside job, artery and livery. Not sure why now, but well done Vulcan for giving me a bit to chew on besides muesli. Plain title for Mr, and ‘providing current’ for ‘live’ were pretty neat. So, quite happy with Monday, thanks V and A.

  4. Avatar for TheFSG
    Comment #4
    TheFSG
    June 1, 2020 at 8:12 am at

    Thanks Andrew and Vulcan. Completed most of it without too much effort, although INSIDE JOB took a bit longer as I was convinced the second word was CON. SWAYED was the LOI having toyed with SHAKER for a while, thinking there was some play on leather-clad Shakin’ Stevens, allied with there being plenty of options for S?A?E? to choose from.

    I did screw up, putting VIXEN at 10a without really thinking it through.

  5. Avatar for Penfold
    Comment #5
    Penfold
    June 1, 2020 at 8:27 am at

    George Clements @2
    Like clockwork?

  6. Avatar for howard
    Comment #6
    howard
    June 1, 2020 at 8:28 am at

    Did anybody else start off at 7ac with bombshell? Just as good an answer as far as I can see, until you start on the down clues.

  7. Avatar for Wiggers
    Comment #7
    Wiggers
    June 1, 2020 at 8:39 am at

    George Clements @2 and Penfold @5.  It’s all about the fine art of surfacing.  Like gif @3 I got stuck in the NW corner.

  8. Avatar for Frankie the cat
    Comment #8
    Frankie the cat
    June 1, 2020 at 8:53 am at

    Defeated by SEPIA for now adequate reason. Not great entertainment I feel.

  9. Avatar for Beobachterin
    Comment #9
    Beobachterin
    June 1, 2020 at 8:56 am at

    The problem with dds is that you either get them or you don’t, and about half of these I didn’t, so had to resort to checking. The more normally cryptic ones were mostly fairly quick, pleasingly, though I did not know SP = starting price = odds, so could not parse SPARKLE. I also started with CON rather than JOB. Thanks to Vulcan and to Andrew for explaining some of the more obscure definitions.

  10. Avatar for Beobachterin
    Comment #10
    Beobachterin
    June 1, 2020 at 8:57 am at

    And I too had the entire grid complete but nothing in the NW corner…

  11. Avatar for drofle
    Comment #11
    drofle
    June 1, 2020 at 9:07 am at

    Like Beaobachterin@9&10 I had a bit of trouble with the NW corner, and for 30a I thought ‘go fast’ wasn’t the same meaning as GAIN. But all enjoyable Mondayish fare. I liked ARTERY. Thanks to Vulcan and Andrew.

  12. Avatar for Shirl
    Comment #12
    Shirl
    June 1, 2020 at 9:28 am at

    Drofle @11 re GAIN: think of a clock, when it is going fast it gains

  13. Avatar for Myrvin
    Comment #13
    Myrvin
    June 1, 2020 at 9:36 am at

    I had VIXEN for 10a. Seems to work as well.

  14. Avatar for AC87
    Comment #14
    AC87
    June 1, 2020 at 9:38 am at

    howard @7 – I didn’t but agree that bombshell is as good and this is my problem with a puzzle full of so many double-ish definitions and cryptic definitions. In Saturday’s very entertaining Prize there were a handful of words I didn’t know but from the wordplay I could say “I bet this means that” and lo and behold on googling it did. Here (although there are no obscure words) if you don’t quite land upon the answer, or settle on a similar but incorrect one you can get properly stuck and the clue offers you no further help to suggest you’ve gone off course.

    I found the whole thing rather unsatisfying to be honest.

    And I’m another one who held themself up with CON pencilled into 9ac.

  15. Avatar for Julia
    Comment #15
    Julia
    June 1, 2020 at 9:42 am at

    Lovely anagram in one of today’s letters. Easily survives travel north to castle (4,5,7,3,5,4,5)

  16. Avatar for Pedro
    Comment #16
    Pedro
    June 1, 2020 at 9:46 am at

    I think some these (eg WATCH and SIREN) should be classed as SDs (Single Definitions). Had to check I wan’t on on the Quick Crossword.

    Like others, held up in the NW though, with that awkward grid.

    Thanks both

     

  17. Avatar for rodshaw
    Comment #17
    rodshaw
    June 1, 2020 at 9:59 am at

    Mostly write-ins, very quick solve, no memorable clues.

  18. Avatar for sjshart
    Comment #18
    sjshart
    June 1, 2020 at 10:15 am at

    Thanks, Andrew – though I did not find this hard.  Like rodshaw@17, many wrote in easily – LEAP, ASK, TAILOR, et al.

    Some are more cunning than has been mentioned. CORK is an Irish port, it closes, and in particular it can close a bottle of port (many cork trees coming from Portugal).  MUG means mouth, as well as being GUM reversed, and what is put to the mouth or gum.  And I liked the triple in COMPACT, as identified by Andrew.

  19. Avatar for Robi
    Comment #19
    June 1, 2020 at 10:17 am at

    Another one who got stuck in NW corner; too many cds and dds for my liking.

    Thanks Vulcan and Andrew.

  20. Avatar for Boffo
    Comment #20
    Boffo
    June 1, 2020 at 10:25 am at

    Julia @15

    That anagram was tweeted by the Telegraph last week. What are Guardian readers coming to?

    A pretty so-so Vulcan this week. Didn’t find much to inspire me. Some bizarre anagrinds made me think I was doing the Everyman for a while.

  21. Avatar for greensward
    Comment #21
    greensward
    June 1, 2020 at 10:35 am at

    I think 8a ‘watch’ is a genuine dd. You can watch something physically (the spectator part), but in phrases like ‘watch what you’re saying’ it means give more thought/pay more attention to.

    Thanks V & A.

  22. Avatar for grantinfreo
    Comment #22
    grantinfreo
    June 1, 2020 at 10:41 am at

    Boffo, my sons say the same when they see The Weekend Australian (Murdoch press) on my table, i.e. I hope you don’t actually read that s..t. Only the puzzles, I reply.

  23. Avatar for TassieTim
    Comment #23
    TassieTim
    June 1, 2020 at 10:49 am at

    A reasonably speedy solve, though SEPIA held me up almost as long as the rest. A couple of nice anagrams, though they may be new only to me – redoing and (especially) Gordian with knot as the anagrind. Thanks, V&A.

  24. Avatar for TassieTim
    Comment #24
    TassieTim
    June 1, 2020 at 10:52 am at

    GinF @22. Snap. I used to get it off my father until he died, because I would never give real money to Rupert for that garbage.

  25. Avatar for Auriga
    Comment #25
    Auriga
    June 1, 2020 at 11:00 am at

    I liked CORK.

    A propos some comments last week, it was also one of the rare puzzles with nothing American in it.

     

  26. Avatar for Pedro
    Comment #26
    Pedro
    June 1, 2020 at 11:09 am at

    greensward @21: I appreciate what you’re saying but I’m not convinced as the derivation is the same. A proper dd for me would something like ‘Pay attention to the time’.

    I’ve seen the term semi &lit on 225 so could we have the term semi dd?

     

  27. Avatar for bodycheetah
    Comment #27
    bodycheetah
    June 1, 2020 at 11:24 am at

    A strange mix of the absurdly easy with a few chewier ones toward the end by which point I’d mentally switched off so maybe found them harder than they should have been. Ah well, real work beckons …

  28. Avatar for Ronald
    Comment #28
    Ronald
    June 1, 2020 at 11:33 am at

    Couldn’t manage to solve SWAYED, but I think on (shaky) balance it was just about the best concealed clue. I rather liked the preponderance of double definitions in this puzzle for a change.

  29. Avatar for sheffield hatter
    Comment #29
    sheffield hatter
    June 1, 2020 at 11:41 am at

    I was unsure of go fast=gain, so thanks to Shirl @12: a fast clock gains time. As others have suggested, it’s a matter sometimes of being on the same wavelength as the setter, and if you’re not what do you do? Last one in for me was CORK, not because the clue was especially difficult, but just me not quite clicking. I had BAR initially for 17d (raise the bar; sand bar at the mouth of a river) but waited for crossers before writing in, fortunately. I liked “seepier” – some homophones can bring a wry smile, while others just leave you bemused.

    Thanks Vulcan and Andrew.

  30. Avatar for baerchen
    Comment #30
    baerchen
    June 1, 2020 at 12:23 pm at

    @Beobachterin comment 9…

    I completely agree with you about dd & dd/cd-type clues. You either get them, or you don’t – there isn’t really any wordplay. Like others who have posted, I struggled in the NW corner of this puzzle because there was a cluster of the little beggars and I realised that I wasn’t especially enjoying untangling them so binned the puzzle.

    I think it’s a good thing that as solvers we are all a bit different, with our likes and dislikes, but I spent years not enjoying Rufus puzzles on Mondays due to the proliferation of this type of clue. And he was really good at them.

    mit freundlichen Grüßen

  31. Avatar for Penfold
    Comment #31
    Penfold
    June 1, 2020 at 12:34 pm at

    Wiggers @7
    Your quip was a tonic for the troops.

  32. Avatar for Miche
    Comment #32
    June 1, 2020 at 12:41 pm at

    Thanks, Andrew.

    As usual, more warmup than workout, but I can’t fault Vulcan for sticking to the brief. I hesitated for a moment over DOG-TIRED at 2a, because I couldn’t (can’t) see how “tired” is clued other than in the definition. I liked “Trumpeter amazing the panel” at 13: not difficult, but a nice surface.

  33. Avatar for crypticsue
    Comment #33
    crypticsue
    June 1, 2020 at 12:55 pm at

    I thought this quite friendly for a Monday – I obviously get on well with double/cryptic definition clues.   I did notice the grid which, as I remarked to Mr CS, is a strange one

    Thanks to Vulcan and Andrew

  34. Avatar for ngaiolaurenson
    Comment #34
    ngaiolaurenson
    June 1, 2020 at 1:05 pm at

    Thanks to Andrew for the blog – SPARKLE was a mystery to me, nho either element. Liked ARTERY. Thanks to Vulcan.

  35. Avatar for muffin
    Comment #35
    muffin
    June 1, 2020 at 1:33 pm at

    Thanks Vulcan and Andrew

    I spent ages over my LOI, SIREN. I wondered about GAIN = go fast too, but the clock explanation work.s

    I liked ELEPHANT and SWAYED.

    ARKLE was from a long time ago. The next mountain to it is called Foinaven, which some of you might remember as another surprisingly successful horse, though for some reason spelled FoinavOn. Both were owned by the Duchess of Westminster, who had a shooting lodge nearby.

  36. Avatar for Gypsy Blue
    Comment #36
    Gypsy Blue
    June 1, 2020 at 1:45 pm at

    Lovely gentle Monday puzzle. First time I haven’t had to check my parsing!

  37. Avatar for Dave Ellison
    Comment #37
    Dave Ellison
    June 1, 2020 at 1:57 pm at

    [muffin@35 you could also have added the connection between the shooting lodge, the Duke and Coco Chanel]

  38. Avatar for Harhop
    Comment #38
    Harhop
    June 1, 2020 at 2:09 pm at

    Still baffled by the opening comment,’less than 50% checking.’could anyone explain this ?

  39. Avatar for Dr. WhatsOn
    Comment #39
    Dr. WhatsOn
    June 1, 2020 at 2:24 pm at

    For me, DDs and whatever-else-Ds are a bit of a cop out.  They work best when they are rare and unexpected.

    Many thanks to Andrew for the pointer to London livery companies.  Quite a fascinating article – I was confused by the need for London in the clue.

  40. Avatar for Miche
    Comment #40
    June 1, 2020 at 2:54 pm at

    Harhop @38: I don’t really notice grids, but I think rohanm is saying that this one has many clues with more unchecked than checked squares (a checked square being one that is crossed by two solutions).

  41. Avatar for DromedaryTrot
    Comment #41
    DromedaryTrot
    June 1, 2020 at 3:12 pm at

    Thought I had completed successfully but should have taken more care. Put in ‘resin’ too quickly rather than ‘sepia’ but still think ‘Shakey’ aka Shakin’ Stevens works for rocker in leather

  42. Avatar for rohanm
    Comment #42
    rohanm
    June 1, 2020 at 3:25 pm at

    Harhop @38:  what Miche @40 wrote.  This comment (https://www.fifteensquared.net/2019/12/02/guardian-cryptic-27993-by-chifonie/#comment-399423) also makes a mention of the unchecked to checked squares in Chifonie’s grid having a ratio greater than 1.

  43. Avatar for Nick
    Comment #43
    Nick
    June 1, 2020 at 3:32 pm at

    GAIN is a result of going fast, not a definition of ‘GO FAST’.

  44. Avatar for Munromad
    Comment #44
    Munromad
    June 1, 2020 at 3:43 pm at

    Like many others I got stuck in the NW corner. I generally didn’t find this terribly enjoyable. So much so that I gave up on 1d and12ac so didn’t finish. I enjoyed sepia and swayed. Thanks to Andrew and Vulcan

  45. Avatar for phitonelly
    Comment #45
    phitonelly
    June 1, 2020 at 4:24 pm at

    I quite enjoyed this one.  Like others, I struggled to crack the NW, but enjoyed MANNER, INSIDE JOB and LIVERY in the end.  Thanks for the link to the Livery Companies, which I was only dimly aware of.  Some fascinating ones, my favourite being #29, The Worshipful Company of Curriers, which sounds perfect for Britain’s (and my) favourite cuisine these days.  Also enjoyed the speculation surrounding the origin of the phrase “at sixes and sevens”.  Intriguing if true.

    One clue that I didn’t think worked well was 8, where the singular “Spectator” seems to lead to the answer WATCHES, rather than WATCH.  Having said that, the 3rd person present tense can be written as “the spectator does watch”, so I guess the “does” in the clue suffices to suggest the answer.  I missed the capitalisation of Spectator, implying the magazine, but this makes the two definitions almost identical, as Andrew said.

    Thanks to Shirl for clearing up my other niggle (gain = go fast) and to Vulcan and Andrew for Monday’s entertainment.

  46. Avatar for Peter Aspinwall
    Comment #46
    Peter Aspinwall
    June 1, 2020 at 4:38 pm at

    Vulcan’s puzzles aren’t difficult but they are sometimes tricky. Some answers are so easy that I assume my first thought must be wrong- WATCH,MANNER while some -like TAILOR are so obvious that they are positively annoying. I do agree with most of the remarks about DD’s.I think they have to be amusing and some of these weren’t. I did like ARTERY,KEY and LIVERY.
    The lockdown seems to be evaporating here: I had to wait for the traffic to subside so I could cross this morning. That hasn’t happened for weeks!
    Thanks Vulcan

  47. Avatar for g larsen
    Comment #47
    g larsen
    June 1, 2020 at 5:02 pm at

    I found this a smooth solve, and (for once) the DDs didn’t grate. Unlike most people here, I sorted the NW quickly, but had more difficulty with the SE. Thanks to Vulcan and Andrew.

    To add to Muffin’s comment @35, I believe that Arkle was the better racehorse, but Foinaven is the better mountain – a serious expedition.

  48. Avatar for muffin
    Comment #48
    muffin
    June 1, 2020 at 5:53 pm at

    g larsen @47

    I agree on both points. Foinaven is a great day out!

  49. Avatar for Ken Jones
    Comment #49
    Ken Jones
    June 1, 2020 at 6:25 pm at

    I confidently entered Robert  for 23 down.- Key batsman.

    Robert Key is the SKY cricket commentator who opened the batting for Kent and England

  50. Avatar for Tony Santucci
    Comment #50
    Tony Santucci
    June 1, 2020 at 7:07 pm at

    Too many double and cryptic definitions for my liking — I gave up in the NW corner on this one. Thanks to both.

  51. Avatar for WhiteKing
    Comment #51
    WhiteKing
    June 1, 2020 at 7:28 pm at

    This wasn’t my cup of tea as CD/DDs often leave me struggling if there’s no other way to get to the solution – and the NW needed MrsW’s way of seeing things to complete it. Nevertheless it was a perfectly well constructed crossword so my thanks to Vulcan and Andrew.

  52. Avatar for 10FC
    Comment #52
    10FC
    June 1, 2020 at 9:16 pm at

    I found it hard to get into this. As I have on previous Mondays. I think others have probably covered this in previous comments, having had a quick perusal.

    I love cryptic definitions and double definitions can be beautifully succinct but there’s a nagging dissatisfaction when it seems a bit loose, with words that appear to be extraneous. I struggled with WATCH at 8 across (amongst others) because it was literally only making ‘Spectator’ a proper noun that made it even slightly cryptic.

    I’m sorry if that sounds negative. I’m not having a pop at the setter, it’s a wavelength thing. When I figure out the answer it’s generally a sigh over a satisfied nod.

  53. Avatar for Caroline
    Comment #53
    Caroline
    June 1, 2020 at 9:53 pm at

    I don’t know why number of double defs should make things harder than usual (Andrew) nor what constitutes excessive in this number!’ Did not even notice, just thought really nice crossword, Vulcan really getting into his stride with Monday slot.
    Vulcan, keep up the good work! Do not listen to these strange complaints, just because they couldn’t do it!

  54. Avatar for Derek White
    Comment #54
    Derek White
    June 2, 2020 at 1:00 pm at

    I think homophones are very much a matter of taste. I liked swayed once I couldn’t get anywhere with Shakin Stevens, but sepia just doesn’t work the way I say it.
    Bit of an Elephants Graveyard for me. (Though i did also like the elephant clue)

  55. Avatar for John Bonner
    Comment #55
    June 6, 2020 at 12:27 am at

    25 across is that rare instance of having two clear and correct answers. SQUASH and ZINGER.
    I got ZINGER and it stopped me dead

  56. Avatar for OD
    Comment #56
    OD
    July 22, 2020 at 3:34 pm at

    re 8a, What the spectator does is WATCHES, not WATCH. Bad grammar, old boy.

  57. Avatar for Mark
    Comment #57
    Mark
    August 12, 2020 at 10:36 am at

    I don’t see why 26d isn’t past tense if it’s clued with absorbed.

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