Independent 10,538 by Eccles

Eccles fills the mid-week spot again this week – we’re in for some fun…..

….and we weren’t disappointed. We found this slightly trickier than most recent Eccles offerings, but none the less enjoyable.
There were several crafty and inventive clues along the way, with excellent surfaces, as we have come to expect.

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ACROSS
1. Termination of contract after a shoe fetish is revealed (6)
AMULET

T (last letter or ‘termination’ of contract) after A MULE (shoe)

5. Unrestricted items for discussion are entertaining, at last: from Constable to Monet (8)
GENDARME

aGENDa (items for discussion) without the first and last letters or ‘unrestricted’ + ARE round or ‘entertaining’ M (last letter of from) – crafty definition!

9. Unfortunate scratching walls after overturning centre of drinking joints (8)
KNUCKLES

lUCKLESs (unfortunate) without the first and last letters or ‘scratching walls’ after reversing or ‘overturning’ NK (middle letters or ‘centre’ of drinking)

10. Largely quiet, very little rebellion (6)
MUTINY

MUm (quiet) without the last letter or ‘mainly’ TINY (very little)

11. Ingredient in chocolate lures me, if I stray (10)
EMULSIFIER

An anagram of LURES ME IF I – anagrind is ‘stray’

12. Possibility that doctor is kissing nurses (4)
RISK

Hidden or ‘nursed’ in doctoR IS Kissing

13. Fruit goes off; covering goes off (8)
GOOSEGOG

An anagram of GO and GO (anagrind is ‘off’) round or ‘covering’ an anagram of GOES (anagrind is ‘off’ – again)

16. Allow Henry in terminal (6)
LETHAL

LET (allow) HAL (Henry)

17. Plaster mostly held firm (6)
STUCCO

STUCk (held) without the last letter or ‘mostly’ CO (company – firm)

19. Permitted to be inspired by whimsical joy (8)
FELICITY

LICIT (permitted) in or ‘inspired by’ FEY (whimsical)

21. Spanish team, formerly (4)
ONCE

ONCE is Spanish for ‘eleven’, as in a football team

22. Expert in deformation of silicates doped with phosphorus (10)
SPECIALIST

An anagram of SILICATES (anagrind is ‘deformation of’) round or ‘doped with’ P (phosphorus)

25. Person with diamonds in upper part of dress (6)
BODICE

BOD (person) ICE (diamonds)

26. Superficial type stops clock with tip of pen (4-4)
SKIN-DEEP

KIND (type) in or ‘stopping’ SEE (clock) P (first letter or ‘tip’ of pen)

27. Celtic centre occasionally starts to recruit artists and the like (2,6)
ET CETERA

Alternate or ‘occasional’ letters of cElTiC cEnTrE + RA (artists)

28. Metal pin is more out of plane? (6)
SKEWER

If something is ‘out of plane’ it would be SKEW – if it is ‘more out of plane’ it could be described as SKEWER

DOWN
2. Note the least bit of hesitation is absent (5)
MINIM

MINIMum (the least) without ‘um’ (bit of hesitation)

3. Pub diet? (5)
LOCAL

LO-CAL (a low calorie diet)

4. Relation of Swiss folk hero in German capital (7)
TELLING

TELL (William Tell – Swiss folk hero) IN G (German ‘capital’)

5. Try to cast youngster with webbed feet (7)
GOSLING

GO (try) SLING (cast)

6. Possibly 3 million neural folds (7)
NUMERAL

An anagram of M (million) and NEURAL – anagrind is ‘folds’

7. American books on a Roman Catholic jerk from the far South? (9)
ANTARCTIC

A (American) NT (New Testament – books) A RC (Roman Catholic) TIC (jerk)

8. Men’s faith is wavering in underground passage (9)
MINESHAFT

An anagram of MEN’S FAITH – anagrind is ‘wavering’

14. Complete two umpiring decisions? (3-3-3)
OUT-AND-OUT

An umpire’s decision in cricket determines whether a batsman is OUT – two decisions could be OUT AND OUT

15. Little time to be impatient without initially seeming unforthcoming (9)
SECRETIVE

SEC (second – ‘little time’) REsTIVE (impatient) without ‘s’ (first or ‘initial’ letter of seeming)

18. Employment Act’s subsection gets judge struck off, which is outrageous (7)
OBSCENE

jOB (employment) SCENE (subsection of an Act – in a play) with ‘j’ (judge) missing or ‘struck off’

19. Plant releases iodine over area (7)
FREESIA

FREES (releases) I (iodine) A (area)

20. Shut up about British – essentially, they can’t provide a service (7)
LAITIES

SEAL (shut) reversed or ‘up’ round ITI (middle or ‘essential’ letters of British)

23. Promise to scrub top shelf (5)
LEDGE

pLEDGE (promise) without or ‘scrubbing’ the first letter or ‘top’

24. Band took head of EMI to court (5)
SUEDE

SUED (took to court) E (first letter or ‘head’ of EMI)

 

21 comments on “Independent 10,538 by Eccles”

  1. Avatar for Hovis
    Comment #1
    Hovis
    July 22, 2020 at 8:47 am at

    Good fun. I especially liked the definition for GENDARME and the wordplay for GOOSEGOG (a word I havent seen in ages). I did cheat a little to get SKEWER and SUEDE was my loi. Thanks to Eccles and Bertandjoyce.

  2. Avatar for crypticsue
    Comment #2
    crypticsue
    July 22, 2020 at 9:04 am at

    I’d agree with trickier but very enjoyable as usual on Eccles Wednesdays

    My favourite was 13a -we had our first 13a crumble of the season at the weekend and the rest of the crop is in the freezer for future use – they are always known by that name in our family

    Thanks to Eccles and B&J

  3. Avatar for Hovis
    Comment #3
    Hovis
    July 22, 2020 at 9:08 am at

    As a kid, we called them goosegobs but was never sure how regional that was. I see both variations are in Chambers.

  4. Avatar for Eileen
    Comment #4
    Eileen
    July 22, 2020 at 9:51 am at

    Eccles on top form, I thought – great fun!

    Favourites today were AMULET,GENDARME, EMULSIFIER, MINESHAFT and OBSCENE.

    I was a bit surprised to see GOOSEGOG and especially to find it in a dictionary – I hadn’t heard it since childhood. [I’m intensely envious of crypticsue having a ready supply: they’re unobtainable in shops or markets these days and my friends who grew them in their garden went and moved. I miss the crumbles – and I also have a delicious recipe for gooseberry ice cream. 🙁 ]

    Many thanks to Eccles and B and J – especially for the Spanish eleven, which I didn’t know.

  5. Avatar for Rabbit Dave
    Comment #5
    Rabbit Dave
    July 22, 2020 at 10:25 am at

    Eccles remains consistently brilliant combining brevity of cluing with beautifully smooth surfaces and lots of humour.

    5a was my favourite.

    Many thanks to Eccles and to B&J.

  6. Avatar for jane
    Comment #6
    jane
    July 22, 2020 at 12:16 pm at

    Like Eileen, I was surprised to see that 13a appears in the dictionary and I thought 11a was something of a curved ball but this setter always has a few tricks up his sleeve!

    Joint favourites here in 5a & 5d.

    Thanks to Eccles and to B&J for the review.

  7. Avatar for James
    Comment #7
    James
    July 22, 2020 at 1:05 pm at

    Thanks Eccles, B&J, very nice as usual.

    ONCE was actually a major Spanish cycling team for many years, named after a Spanish charity for the blind (an acronym, rather than the number).

    It struck me that in 11a we have ‘(luresmeifI) stray’ but in 12a ‘(doctoriskissing) nurses’. I don’t see how both can be right.

  8. Avatar for Kathryn's Dad
    Comment #8
    Kathryn's Dad
    July 22, 2020 at 1:57 pm at

    Thanks to B&J for blogging. GOOSEGOGS was a fond reminder of childhood days, although the word is still common round here. ONCE was cleverly clued as well (you’ll remember it for next time, Eileen, when you realise that it’s cognate with and very close to being spelled the same as the French word).

    Eccles is a consistently entertaining setter and always a welcome Wednesday distraction.

  9. Avatar for allan_c
    Comment #9
    allan_c
    July 22, 2020 at 2:09 pm at

    “… several crafty and inventive clues along the way, with excellent surfaces, as we have come to expect.” We’ll go along with that. And we must have been on Eccles’ wavelength today as we spotted the craft and inventiveness right from the start with 1ac. The SE corner was a minor hurdle, with SUEDE as our LOI, after we remembered it was the name of a band. Favourite was GENDARME.

    We parsed ONCE simply as eleven = team; we’d forgotten about the cycling team, so thanks to James for the reminder.

    And thanks, of course, to Eccles and B&J.

  10. Avatar for Sil van den Hoek
    Comment #10
    Sil van den Hoek
    July 22, 2020 at 2:42 pm at

    Another really good crossword from Eccles, one that I found more challenging than usual.
    I didnt miss SUEDE but I did miss SUEDE = Band oops.
    I particularly liked (the surface of) 12acs RISK.

    Talking about 12ac and to say something to James @7 , I think both the singular and the plural form of the verb can be justified.
    Like most setters, Eccles preference is as far as I know to use the singular variant (as in 12ac).
    However, in 11ac, if you see lures me if I as four separate things that are straying, then stray is all right IMO.
    For me, not a matter of ones right and therefore the others wrong.
    More a case of Eccles being inconsistent.
    Although I liked 13ac, I was a bit surprised to see an indirect anagram here.
    Thats what it is, isnt it?
    Goes becomes GO GO, and then well get (GO GO)*.
    I first thought that the clue would tell me: (GOES)* around (GOES)*, but no, that didnt lead to fruit.
    Inventive, yes, but a bit unlike Eccles.

    Many thanks to B&J for the blog, and Eccles for the entertainment.

  11. Avatar for jane
    Comment #11
    jane
    July 22, 2020 at 4:10 pm at

    Hi Sil, isn’t ‘off’ the indicator for both parts of the clue so we have GOES (off) inside another instance of GOES (off)?

  12. Avatar for Sil van den Hoek
    Comment #12
    Sil van den Hoek
    July 22, 2020 at 6:16 pm at

    Thats not my point, jane.
    My point is that, strictly speaking, the clue says: (GOES)* around (GOES)*, but that it is (GO GO)* around (GOES)* that happens here.
    Fine (perhaps) but unusual.

  13. Avatar for jane
    Comment #13
    jane
    July 22, 2020 at 7:14 pm at

    Sorry to disagree, Sil, but the clue explicitly says ‘goes (OFF) covering goes (OFF)’. Surely by putting an anagram of GOES inside another anagram of GOES, one arrives at the answer?

  14. Avatar for Sil van den Hoek
    Comment #14
    Sil van den Hoek
    July 22, 2020 at 7:35 pm at

    But the thing is, jane, that GOOSEGOG is not an anagram of GOES GOES.
    Youll have to turn the first GOES into GO+GO before taking the anagram.
    Ah well, it doesnt really matter. Its OK or at least very original.

  15. Avatar for Dansar
    Comment #15
    Dansar
    July 22, 2020 at 7:40 pm at

    Thanks to Bertandjoyce and Eccles

    Always inventive and enjoyable

    In 11a I thought “stray” may be being used as an adjective.

    20d More and more setter’s are using “at heart”, “essentially” etc. to mean “however many letters in the middle I’m thinking of”.

  16. Avatar for Eccles
    Comment #16
    Eccles
    July 22, 2020 at 7:55 pm at

    Cheers B&J and commenters.

    Sil, it is slightly indirect, but I considered that as the letters were on the page, – even if they had to be written out twice, being a plural – it was just about OK. I thought it reasonable to be solved in a forward direction, rather than back-parsing, even if not straightforward.

    James, I would consider fodder to be singular (unless it is clearly made plural by having ‘and’ separating the fodder), so I wouldn’t use stray as a verb in that position (many consider it to be fine, though, with fodder of more than one word). However, I used stray as an adjective here, as Dansar pointed out. Most adjectives can be used either before or after the word they are acting on (although it is more common to use them before) so i think that is fine.

    Dansar, on your last point – guilty as charged.

  17. Avatar for Eileen
    Comment #17
    Eileen
    July 22, 2020 at 7:57 pm at

    I took ‘stray’ as dansar @15 did.

  18. Avatar for Eileen
    Comment #18
    Eileen
    July 22, 2020 at 7:58 pm at

    Sorry, Eccles – we crossed.

  19. Avatar for jane
    Comment #19
    jane
    July 22, 2020 at 8:02 pm at

    My apologies, Sil, I now see where you were ‘coming from’. Seems as through Eccles fooled me – not for the first time!

  20. Avatar for Sil van den Hoek
    Comment #20
    Sil van den Hoek
    July 22, 2020 at 8:09 pm at

    All sorted then!

  21. Avatar for James
    Comment #21
    James
    July 23, 2020 at 10:13 am at

    Thanks, just didn’t occur to me that stray was an adjective.

    Sil, the point about singular/plural verb forms has come up before and no doubt will again, though maybe it’s always on Guardian puzzles. I’m not entirely unconvinced by your justification, but I prefer Eccles’s position that if you want to treat the words separately and so have a plural verb, you need an ‘and’ in your list. Anyway, I think you’re right that it’s less a question of right or wrong than consistency; by doing it one way nearly all the time you are saying ‘this is how I think a clue should be written’, and then it looks very much like a compromise if you change your practice for a single clue.

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