Inquisitor 1654: Spot the Difference by Artix

A long complex rubric with a coda by the editor.

The solutions to both grids are identical except for the three pairs of thematic entries in the silver cells; other down answers may thus be entered in duplicate. Across answers must be fitted into one or other of the grids; only one of them appears in both. Entries in the top and bottom rows overlap in the seventh column.
 The three one-word ‘clues’ may be linked to the same 4-letter theme word, to be written under the grids. All other clues contain one or more hints to the nature of the themes; five of these, all single words specific to one thematic pair, are appropriately positioned but must be removed before solving. 14 is a variant spelling in Collins.
 Editor’s note: were this to be a prize puzzle, solvers would be required to submit the more recent of the two grids. All information contained in the puzzle was correct at midnight on Tuesday 30 June.

I blogged Artix’s last Inquisitor at Christmas 2017 (the NO EL puzzle) when I found a lot of the wordplay difficult. My first read-through of this puzzle yielded precisely one answer, EON at 8 down, so things don’t seem to have changed.

The down instruction was pretty clear, but I didn’t really understand how to deal with the across answers. Were the across clues really clues to two words, or was one of the pair unclued? How to decide? When in doubt, soldier on.

I got a couple of pretty clear anagrams – [S+PARANOIA]* at 10d and [Y+EAST END]* at 14d. The first yielded quickly, but I had trouble with the second as, though I had read the rubric, I didn’t take it in fully, failing to notice that 14d was specifically mentioned. I solved it using the anagram solver here, and only then realised why my Chambers app had failed me!

I also found that the instruction about 1a/5a and 28a/29a was a bit ambiguous. I thought that “overlap” meant that when I got the answers the last letter of the first was the first letter of the second. This turned out to be true, but, when I had RAGWEED and KIDDLE for the bottom row,  not so straightforward as I thought.

After a lot of slow progress, I eventually came to the conclusion that the across clues were simple (i.e. clues to a single word – not easy!) and that the second variant was unclued. So each across clue yielded one word which might fit either diagram and an unclued (and unrelated) variant which was identical except for the “silver” letters. The rubric’s only one of them appears in both hint refers to TRILBY at 26a.

The first major success was identifying the four letter word linking the one-word clues. This was POST. So Post Office, Cabinet Post and Goalpost. Our three silver columns were (thanks to the editor’s reference to more recent) “before” and “after” versions of mail, politics and football-related things. These things turned out to be names. I had noted North, Peel, Brown etc. in the clues and first thought that the central column might refer to Prime Ministers, but the addition of Canning, MacLeod and Darling seemed to indicate that it was more likely to be Chancellors of the Exchequer. Fortunately there is a Government list here, so I was able to check my guesses.

By this time I had three of the of the four answers in the top and bottom row, which were DERIDER, RAGWEED and KIDDLE. The bottom row had to go together as RAG WEEK and KIDDLE with DERIDER and R?M?L? on the top row. This led me to REMBLE for the fourth answer. All that remained was to sort out the variants and locate them in the appropriate diagram. The bottom row was either RAGWEEKIDDLE or RAGWEEDIDDLE, the top was DERIDEREMBLE or DE{C/R}IDESEMBLE.

I had entered several across answers as an experiment and the central silver entry came out as {R/S}{A/I}????U??K and in my search for the Chancellors I saw that the current incumbent (to quote the editor, correct at 7 July as I write this blog) is RISHI SUNAK to be entered in the After (lower) grid and his predecessor was SAJID JAVID for the Before (upper) grid.These acted as locators for many of the remaining answers. Specifically the overlapping answers in the top grid were DECIDESEMBLE and RAGWEEDIDDLE, and in the bottom DERIDEREMBLE and RAGWEEKIDDLE.

It was far from finished at this point, but I was eventually able to solve the other two “silver” before and after pairs as CONSIGNIA which became ROYAL MAIL (having been Royal Mail to start with – another triumph of stupid senior managers!) and MAINE ROAD, the home ground of Manchester City, which became THE ETIHAD after a sponsorship deal.

“Just” a matter of tidying up the remaining alternate words and reverse engineering the rubric’s “All other clues contain one or more hints to the nature of the themes; five of these, all single words specific to one thematic pair, are appropriately positioned but must be removed before solving.” If I hadn’t been writing this blog, I’m not sure I would have bothered! I’ve no doubt that Manchester City fans would have found this wonderful. I just found it a blog slog.

I found the five specifically related to Maine Road / The Etihad by Googling “Sane Brown Bravo” while under the impression that Brown must be removed too. It led to the information that there are three players being transferred from Manchester City, Stones, Bravo and Sane and two to be retained by them on contract extensions Jesus and Sterling. These names are removed from the clues before solving. The “appropriately placed” seems to mean that those being transferred are at the start of the clue, those being retained are in the clue – a bit tenuous I think. See Ylo’s comment #1. There is also a Manchester City player called Erik Palmer Brown who is currently on loan to an Austrian club. The sense of the clue (26a) means that he should possibly be removed too – hence the question mark?

In summary, a lot of work for little gain if you weren’t a football fan (specifically a Manchester City fan). Nicely constructed grid and clever clues to include the hints. Hard work to blog – I’ve omitted many of my thought processes and the blind alleys followed. Thanks to Artix, however. I hope to renew our duel in the future.

First the clue “hints” – those that I have found, anyway. I still haven’t found one in 11d unless “hard” refers to footballers like Norman Hunter and Vinnie Jones.  If you have spotted others, please comment.

Across

C=Chancellor, RM=Royal Mail, FB=Football

 Clue  Hint  C/RM/FB
1 George Ward Hunt 1868 C
5 John Stones (MC transfer)
Lord North 1767 to 1782
FB
C
9 Gabriel Jesus (MC staying)
stamp
FB
RM
13 Association FB
15 first class RM
16 Sir John Pratt (1721) C
17 Sir Robert Peel 1834 to 1835 C
18 Spurs FB
20 Ian Macleod 1970 C
21 address RM
22 Earl of Dunbar (1603 to 1606) C
24 back FB
26 Erik Palmer Brown (MC on loan)
Gordon Brown 1997 to 2007
FB
C
27 score FB
28 WAGS (Wives And GirlfriendS) FB
29 nets FB

Down

1 Claudio Bravo (MC transfer) FB
3 clubs FB
4 wing FB
6 second class
kicking
RM
FB
7 Raheem Sterling (MC staying) FB
8 Hearts FB
10 stoke(s) FB
11 Hard? FB?
14 ground and East End (stand at the Etihad?) FB
17 George Canning 1827 C
19 Leroy Sane (MC transfer) FB
23 City FB
25 Alistair Darling 2007 to 2010 C

Now the grids:

THEME WORD: POST

 

 

Across

b/a in columns 3 & 4 indicate whether the answer is in the before (upper) or after (lower) grid

 No.  Clue (definition)  Clue Answer  Variant  Wordplay
1 Does he mock man at Hunt from lower social classes? (7) DERIDER a DECIDES b D + E (from lower social classes) + RIDER (man at Hunt)
5 Stones to clear in North? Shave top off rock (6) REMBLE a SEMBLE b (t)REMBLE (rock) minus first letter (shave top off)
9 Isaiah, order Jesus to stamp out natural ‘speed’ substance! (9) ISOMERASE b ISOMERISE a IS (book of Isaiah) +OM (order) + ERASE (stamp out)
13 Booksellers Association name Telegraph’s boss poisoned in Stratford (5) BANED b BAYED a Stratford references a Shakespearean word: BA (Booksellers Association) + N(ame) + ED (Telegraph’s boss)
15 Abandoned cross Poles before and after first class (4) SAIN b SHIN a Why is Poles capitalised? S & N (poles) round AI (first class)
16 Once indecent local one “grinds” Pratt’s Bottom (8) UNHONEST a UNIONIST b UN (dialect one) + HONES (grinds) + (Prat)T
17 Peel off worn crease (4) FOLD a FOID b (o)F(f) (peel = remove first and last letters) + OLD (worn)
18 Use spurs to go well in Texas on horse? (5, 2 words) GEE UP a GEN UP b GEE (go well in US) + UP (on horse)
20 Field a half-cut team, providing opening for Macleod (6) INGATE b INMATE a ING (field) + A + TE(am)
21 “Fat old man with beard” – not accepted way to address Guru (4) SANT a JANE b SANTA (“Fat old man with beard”) minus A(ccepted)
22 Scottish lament, say, for blood on Earl of Dunbar’s shield (4) SANG b SAAG a Scottish heraldic term for blood: A lament is an example of a SONG (say) and SANG is Scottish for song
24 Detaches fuses with current moving back (6) UNTIES a ANTRES b UNITES (fuses) with I (current) moving back one place
26 (Brown?) hat delivered by inserting one pound in crack (6) TRILBY b TRILBY a Should Brown be ignored?: I LB (one pound) in TRY (crack)
27 Year knocked off to score time for tax (7) TALLAGE a TILLAGE b TALL(y) (score minus Y(ear)) + AGE (time)
28 Actor Oliver eating unruly wag’s Ambrosia (7) RAGWEED b RAG WEEK a REED (actor Oliver Reed) round [WAG]*
29 It had nets attached to it to catch lad led astray (6) KIDDLE a DIDDLE b KID (lad) + [LED]*

Down

 No.  Clue (definition)  Answer Wordplay
1 Bravo! Money for youth game (4) DIBS Double definition
2 Office
3 Claimed losing clubs played for President’s wife? (6) IMELDA [(c)LAIMED]* (C(lubs) removed)
4 Perhaps Duty Free wing at JFK took in recyclable food education from South (10) DEDUCTIBLE EL (US for L wing) + BIT (took in) + CUD (recyclable food) + ED(ucation) all reversed
5 Cabinet
6 Like second class landlords kicking out couple in front of manor-house (5) MESNE Mesne means middle and a mesne lord holds land from a superior lord, but not my favourite definition! DEMESNE (manor-house) minus first two letters
7 Having converted Sterling, used lire on holiday much of the time (8) LEISURED [USED LIRE]*
8 Hearts of men won any time (3) EON middle letters (hearts) of mEn wOn aNy
10 Plant stokes unhinged paranoia (9) SAPONARIA [S(tokes) PARANOIA]*
11 Hard work leads to answer phrases (7) SLOGANS SLOG (hard work) + ANS(wer)
12 Goal
14 Rock party’s finale in East End ground (8) ANDESYTE [(part)Y EASTEND]*
17 Canning drug, ‘irritable’ becomes ‘pugnacious’ (5) FISTY FEISTY (irritable) remove E (drug)
19 Sane no more in letter about cornflake (6) PASSÉE PEE (letter) round ASS (cornflake)
23 Warmth created after toxic gas leaks from City’s centre (4) GLOW GL(asg)OW (City) minus [GAS]*
25 Darling’s heart captured by fox, it’s said (4) TOLD (Dar)L(ing) (heart) in TOD (fox)

 

17 comments on “Inquisitor 1654: Spot the Difference by Artix”

  1. The number of the clue is the number on the football player’s shirt. Bravo = Goalkeeper = 1. Sterling plays in a number 7 shirt…

  2. Definitely a lot of work if like me you know nothing about the game. Of the themed entries I got the Royal Mail ones first, then the football (with a little help from Google – Jesus and Sterling is a pretty good search), and finally the cabinet post. Regarding the latter I was expecting the old incumbent to be of a similar period to Consignia / Maine Road, as they both seemed to have changed about the same time (early 2000’s?), but that’s me misconstruing what Artix was trying to do I guess.

  3. Thanks Hihoba

    With regard to 11dn, I took the ‘hint’ to be the clue number itself, which is football related.

  4. As soon as I understaood enough of the instructions to make a start I set about solving the clues, which I found moderately tough, two of them proving particularly stubborn: SANT and KIDDLE.

    I had two routes into the endgame: the five ‘hints’ from the clues and the checked letters in the silvered cells, of which the latter was more promising. After experimenting with various letter combinations for all three pairs of theme words I found just one name I recognised from the letters I had: RISHI SUNAK, our Chancellor. There were fewer possibilities now for its partner in the other grid, and although I wasn’t expecting it I could easily see the possibility of SAJID JAVID, Rishi’s predecessor.

    Remembering the editorial note, I was now certain of the basis of the theme and that the pairs would not necessarily relate to each other. This was where I was helped by the five names and by the one-word clues. As one who occasionally watches only edited highlights of English football I was very fortunate to know enough about a particular English Premier League club, some of its players (but not their shirt numbers!) and even their home ground. Was this fair? Without that bit of knowledge I think this puzzle would have been too tough to complete.

    I admired the way that ‘then and now’ names on three very different subjects were brought together in a theme neatly linked by three words in italics, all of which go together with ‘post’.

    I never understood the meaning of ‘(Brown?)’ in the clue to 26a. Thanks Hihoba for mentioning that and indeed for your interesting blog, especially concerning your way into the theme, which was different from mine. And thanks to Artix for the challenge.

  5. I had a problem with the first row and the “S” answer SAJID. I had assumed that as both the answers in that row had  R in that position – last letter in DECIDER, first in  REMBLE, that both answers to 5d must start with R. I eventually found SAJID JAVID and assumed he must be the answer, and on rereading the preamble it doesn’t actually say that DECIDER and REMBLE have to go in different grids, but I didn’t like it! Did anyone else think the same?

    The whole thing was hard for me as I’m not British and have no interest in Soccer.

    And I think you’ve the name of RISHI wrong – isn’t be SUNAK, not SUMAK?

  6. As a long time City fan I got a little bit of a head start on the theme but it was still an enjoyable challenge. You won’t get me complaining (in public) when themes are a touch more highbrow. It should be noted that Sane left the club between 30 June and publication, so editor’s note was essential! I’ve only just noticed the thematic relevance of 11 Down(ing Street). Finally, thanks to setter and blogger

  7. I am tempted to say that the blog represents Sterling work, for which many thanks.  Sterling was indeed my way into the theme, followed by Bravo, although I didn’t spot the significance of the clue numbers.  At first I thought the whole theme was going to be football-related, Liverpool, Leicester and Manchester all having 9 or 10 letters.  I can’t find a hint in 11 down – “hard” seems too tenuous to link to football (and shouldn’t it be to Manchester City specifically, rather than to football generally?).

    There’s a small typo in the introduction to the blog: it’s Sajid Javid, not Javed (it’s correct in the grid).

  8. Firstly, I am not a football fan or know a lot about the game, but I still enjoyed this.

    One of the joys of the Inquisitor is the way we usually have to research random topics (sometimes false leads) to solve the puzzle – Japanese Yakuza gangs one week, Manchester City players the next..it makes a change from the lesser known poets that often appear.

    The Editor gave the biggest clue in the preamble, in my opinion. Just from looking at the clues the names of Chancellors of the Exchequer jumped out, which together with “cabinet” led me to hazard the two most recent ones…which both have 10 letters. RAGWEED and RAGWEEK seemed to confirm this.

    Football seemed to be another theme and given that Liverpool (9 letters) had been in the news recently, I was half expecting this to appear – the long awaited result confirmation would have given the setter enough time to include this. This lead to many false leads – Golden boot winners, different managers… It was lucky that there were the links with Manchester City (previous title holders/rivals and the recent drubbing) as it was the news reports that inspired THE ETIHAD. I knew it to be one of the “newer” football ground names and I had to look up the previous name.

    As I’ve said, I don’t follow football. The names of the players were familiar, but I couldn’t say what they looked like, what position they played or even which team. Research into this lead to the revelation about shirt numbers in the crossword clues. A nice touch!

    All in all, a nice and enjoyable solve – I found it one of the easier puzzles so far in 2020, once you realised what was going on.

    I didn’t know that there was a former Chancellor called (Sir) Julius Caesar before this crossword came out. It’s not only new words that you learn!

    Thanks to Artix and Hi.

     

  9. Thank you Bridgesong #8, error corrected. I like Phil K’s suggestion at #7 of 11 Down(ing Street) being Chancellor-related.

  10. I spent ages trying to understand how the solutions to both grids could be identical (as mentioned in the preamble) when the entries to the two grids were obviously different. Eventually the fog in my brain cleared, and once I realised that POST was the link word it wasn’t too much of a leap to get the two chancellors from the crossing letters. I recalled CONSIGNIA (and the scorn poured upon it) but had to look up THE ETIHAD. I had no idea that Manchester City had moved to another stadium,  but then I know next to nothing about modern football.

    This was a series of logical deductive steps, which is what these puzzles are all about. I found it damned hard but well worth the time spent. Nice one Artix.

  11. I solved the majority of the clues easily enough, and got the Manchester City theme from the redundant words JESUS, STERLING, and MANE. Then I got RISHI SUNAK from Cabinet having the U and the K in place. This gave me POST and then ROYAL MAIL. Game over.
    I didn’t bother trying to pick out all the hints, or spot the relevant positions of the players.

  12. Many thanks to blogger and all contributors for your comments. Very interesting to read about solving experiences and feedback much appreciated. A few more explanations seem to be needed. First: SPOT the difference was intended to be a hint that the theme word was POST, an anagram of SPOT! Each clue did have some “hint” but the most difficult to “spot” (or perhaps the most tenuous, you decide) were perhaps the ones relating to the Post Office (& philately): stamp, Telegraph, first class, address, delivered, second class, unhinged, answer, letter….  And one final note: the trilby used to be almost exclusively brown in colour and was often referred to as the “brown hat” or “brown trilby” … (I have a friend, the wife of a trainer, who sports a pink trilby at race meetings these days, so trilbies (trilbys?) definitely can be other colours nowadays …) Thanks again.

  13. Being a Manchester City fan, and using a commenting name inspired by one of the stands at Maine Road, this puzzle was always going to earn bonus points from me 🙂

    I’m slightly ashamed to say that despite noticing Sane with a tinge of sadness (very sorry to see him leave), it was the set of Chancellors that I identified first. I was delighted with the PDM for the City theme. For ages I could only see four of the City players, completely missing Bravo (there is a joke to be made there about his frequent invisibility in goal). I don’t think that anyone has mentioned it above, but while there is certainly speculation that Stones will be moving on I’m not aware of that being confirmed.

    However…if it wasn’t for City I’m afraid that I would be less favourable. Very neat construction for the three thematic columns, but I found the link rather tenuous and there was almost too much going on here. I also found the blurb about the across clues very confusing.

    Thanks to Artix for a memorable solve and explaining some of the loose ends.

  14. Unlike many of the others, I found this one of the two most difficult puzzles so far this year. I solved all the clues but then had a gap. (And I felt that “(Brown?)” was the translation of the Belgian “De Bruyne”.) Then I got RISHI SUNAK & SAJIV JAVID and another gap. Later the other two pairs of down entries. Then yet another gap! Before I finally twigged POST (& realised it was an anagram of SPOT).

    Obviously losing my touch. (Or spending too much time on work-related tasks …)

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